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		<title>Modeling Advice from Supermodel Isabella Rossellini</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jill</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isabella&#8217;s Top Tip for Aspiring Models I ran into the timeless beauty Isabella Rossellini on the red carpet at Fashion Group International&#8216;s fabulous Night of Stars gala last week. (Well, OK, she was on the red carpet; I was elbowing reporters along the fringes.) She was a vision of elegance, with impeccable posture and the [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p>I ran into the timeless beauty <a title="Isabella Rossellini" href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000618/" target="_blank">Isabella Rossellini</a> on the red carpet at <a title="Fashion Group International" href="http://www.fgi.org/" target="_blank">Fashion Group International</a>&#8216;s fabulous <strong>Night of Stars</strong> gala last week. (Well, OK, she was <em>on</em> the red carpet; I was elbowing reporters along the fringes.) She was a vision of elegance, with impeccable posture and the calm countenance of someone who has spent her life around red carpets. You can&#8217;t look at Isabella without seeing her mother, <strong>Ingrid Bergman</strong>. You also see a woman who is aging gracefully, refusing to jump on the Botox and plastic surgery bandwagon. That is especially impressive for someone whose beauty and identity were so intertwined through her life. But clearly that entanglement was in the beholder&#8217;s eyes, not in the heart of this wise woman. I was lucky enough to have a few words with her&#8230;</p>
<div id="attachment_2342" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 235px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Isabella-Rossellini.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-2342" alt="Isabella Rossellini" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Isabella-Rossellini-225x300.jpg" width="225" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Isabella Rossellini</p></div>
<p>JJ: What is your #1 tip for aspiring models out there?</p>
<p><em>IR: Well, you know, there is very little one can do. You are either selected for jobs—and it&#8217;s wonderful when that happens—or you&#8217;re not. There isn&#8217;t much you can do about it.</em></p>
<p>JJ: It&#8217;s good for aspiring models to hear that, because you just can&#8217;t take it personally.</p>
<p><em>IR: You can&#8217;t take it personally. And you shouldn&#8217;t lose weight or get plastic surgery to try to be accepted, because it either happens or not. It&#8217;s like winning the lottery.</em></p>
<p>JJ: Why did you come out to the <strong>Night of Stars</strong> tonight?</p>
<p><em>IR: I am here tonight because <a title="Natura" href="http://www.natura.net/br/index.html" target="_blank">Natura</a> is winning an award, and a friend of mine , Roger Schmidt, is the executive at <strong>Natura</strong>. I came to give him the award. </em></p>
<div id="attachment_2344" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 235px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Karen-Elson.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-2344" alt="Karen Elson" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Karen-Elson-225x300.jpg" width="225" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Model Karen Elson</p></div>
<p>Model <a title="Karen Elson" href="http://www.karenelson.com/" target="_blank">Karen Elson</a>, truly aging like a fine wine, presented to Superstar Award winner <a title="Diane Von Furstenberg" href="http://www.dvf.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-DvF_US-Site/default/Home-Show?cid=gcpc&amp;mkwid=suUBu7c1U&amp;pcrid=45049233087&amp;pdv=c&amp;gclid=CjwKEAjwoMKiBRDHwoaQ0dzn0UwSJAAUk5Ji4DvdShkcQg92sMfCn3dWJlToXTULhfaTXfJqFnk1zhoCpenw_wcB" target="_blank">Diane Von Furstenberg</a>. Elson described her as the foxiest woman on the planet and the person who essentially runs the fashion business. I remember modeling for Diane for a <a title="Home Shopping Network" href="http://www.hsn.com/" target="_blank">Home Shopping Network </a>episode shot at Diane&#8217;s HQ in the West Village, or more specifically the Meatpacking District; it figures that Diane was there long before it was declared the<em> it</em> place in New York.</p>
<div id="attachment_2345" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 235px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Diane-Von-Furstenberg.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-2345" alt="Diane Von Furstenberg" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Diane-Von-Furstenberg-225x300.jpg" width="225" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Diane Von Furstenberg</p></div>
<p><a title="Debbie Harry" href="http://www.deborahharry.com/" target="_blank">Debbie Harry</a> livened up the presenter panel. <strong>Glenda Bailey</strong>, EIC of <a title="Harper's Bazaar" href="http://www.harpersbazaar.com/" target="_blank">Harper&#8217;s Bazaar</a>, was thrilled to have someone as cool as Blondie introducing her.</p>
<p>Diane&#8217;s speech honored her dear friend <a title="Oscar de la Renta" href="http://www.oscardelarenta.com/" target="_blank">Oscar de la Renta</a>, with whom she dined weekly up until his passing several weeks ago. Her tender words revealed two close friends, disrobed of their celebrity and exposed to the same mortality we all face.</p>
<p>It was not a frivolous fashion fete by any stretch. But, the fact remains, dear readers, the fashion dictators can be a fickle bunch, so keep Isabella&#8217;s words in mind and don&#8217;t take it personally.</p>
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		<title>Supermodel Icons Discuss the Ugly Side of Modeling</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jill</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><img width="277" height="182" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/LisaTaylor2.jpg" class="attachment-medium wp-post-image" alt="Model Lisa Taylor" /></p>In my first blog post reviewing &#8220;About Face: Supermodels Then and Now,&#8221; I praised the fair, balanced view of the modeling industry that the documentary presented. My second &#8220;About Face&#8221; blog post features my 10 favorite quotes from these stunning women—most are inspiring, funny, innocuous. Now for &#8220;The Dark Side of Modeling&#8221; and the deeper [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img width="277" height="182" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/LisaTaylor2.jpg" class="attachment-medium wp-post-image" alt="Model Lisa Taylor" /></p><p>In my <a title="&quot;About Face&quot; review" href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/hbos-about-face-supermodels-then-and-now/" target="_blank">first blog post</a> reviewing &#8220;About Face: Supermodels Then and Now,&#8221; I praised the fair, balanced view of the modeling industry that the documentary presented. My <a title="&quot;About Face&quot; Quotes" href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/my-ten-favorite-quotes-from-about-face/" target="_blank">second &#8220;About Face&#8221; blog post</a> features my 10 favorite quotes from these stunning women—most are inspiring, funny, innocuous. Now for &#8220;The Dark Side of Modeling&#8221; and the deeper questions about superficial beauty and aging.</p>
<p><strong>Body Image</strong></p>
<p>Carmen noted that when she started modeling and her image was splashed all over coveted covers, she was 5&#8217;9&#8243; and weighed under 100 pounds.</p>
<div id="attachment_856" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 234px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/CarmenVogue.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-856" title="CarmenVogue" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/CarmenVogue-224x300.jpg" alt="Carmen Dell'Orefice on Vogue" width="224" height="300" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Carmen Dell&#8217;Orefice</p></div>
<p>The photographers and fashion editors, even back in the 1940s, promoted the super-skinny look, which, 70 years later, has become the model norm. While my hunch is Carmen came by her teenage gamine look naturally, Carol Alt talks about starving herself to get thin enough for the Milan shows (then again, she claims to have been a size 16 when she was discovered!). China Machada says, &#8220;I never dieted. I never exercised.&#8221; I knew plenty of models like that: born with a model metabolism. More and more, girls who are not born naturally slender need to think about the extremes that may be required of them to fit in today&#8217;s sample sizes. See my blog on the model Crystal Renn&#8217;s book &#8220;<a title="&quot;Hungry&quot;" href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/hungry/" target="_blank">Hungry.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Especially as we age, the body ideal we see in magazines becomes less and less attainable. &#8220;The paparazzi everywhere looking for that one bit of cellulite— collectively it brings us down,&#8221; says Christie Brinkley.</p>
<p><strong>Self-Esteem</strong></p>
<div id="attachment_869" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 231px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/PaulinaPorizkova.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-869" title="PaulinaPorizkova" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/PaulinaPorizkova.jpg" alt="Model Paulina Porizkova" width="221" height="228" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Paulina Porizkova</p></div>
<p>Paulina started modeling at 15. She discussed a common problem with girls who start that young: &#8220;I was a typical 15-year-old girl as far as being completely insecure, and wanting to seem more grown up than she actually was by smoking and playing really hard and drinking too much. I arrived with girls who were 16, 17. I saw the ones who got into drugs, or became bulimic or anorexic. You see enough of that and you start to feel like it’s normal.&#8221; Later she adds, &#8220;Modeling doesn’t have anything to do with self-confidence. Working off your looks is pretty much the opposite. So maybe I became beautiful when I stopped modeling.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Sexual Harassment</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;What people called sexual harassment, we called compliments,&#8221; explains Paulina. &#8220;When a 16-year-old is flattered by a man pulling out his penis in front of her, that’s noteworthy.&#8221; (You&#8217;ll be relieved to hear nothing like that ever happened to me!)</p>
<p>Isabella Rossellini felt fortunate to have started when she was older (I concur). She says, &#8220;It&#8217;s harder when you are young. Once you are made up, people forget you are 15 or 16. They think you are a 20-year-old sex kitten.</p>
<p><strong>Drugs</strong></p>
<div id="attachment_858" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 287px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/LisaTaylor.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-858" title="LisaTaylor" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/LisaTaylor.jpg" alt="Model Lisa Taylor" width="277" height="182" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Lisa Taylor&#8217;s life, spiraling out of control</p></div>
<p>Lisa Taylor recounts a low point of her career: &#8220;On the cover of <em>The Daily News, </em>there was a story called “The Dark Side of Modeling,” with a picture of me. I knew that&#8217;s what my dad would see on his train ride home from work.  It was the 70s—everyone was doing drugs, mostly cocaine. I was so insecure, I needed to do it. It made me feel like I was worth being photographed, that I was somebody.&#8221; At the end of the film, Lisa (who has had a low-profile life since), stated: &#8220;I did get self-esteem from succeeding in something. I don’t regret anything. I’m just really glad I didn’t die in the process.&#8221;</p>
<div id="attachment_857" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 206px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/GiaCarangi.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-857" title="GiaCarangi" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/GiaCarangi.jpg" alt="Gia Carangi on Vogue" width="196" height="258" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Gia Carangi</p></div>
<p>Fashion editor Jade Hobson recalls seeing track marks on Gia&#8217;s arms during a shoot (Gia suffered a heroin addiction and died of AIDS in the 80s): &#8220;I feel somewhat responsible for using these girls when we knew of their heavy, heavy use of drugs. Maybe we exploited these girls, because it gave the photos a certain look.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Plastic Surgery</strong></p>
<p>Some have, some haven&#8217;t. &#8220;I did my eyes,&#8221; admits former Halston model Karen Bjornson, who revived her career at 50. &#8220;It was money well spent, getting the product in shape again. I don’t want to look younger, I just want to look well rested!&#8221;</p>
<div id="attachment_859" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 211px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/KarenBjornsonNow.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-859" title="KarenBjornsonNow" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/KarenBjornsonNow.jpg" alt="Model Karen Bjornson" width="201" height="251" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Karen Bjornson</p></div>
<p>Octogenarian <a title="Carmen" href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/carmen-dellorefice-still-modeling-at-80/" target="_blank">Carmen</a> says her fountain of youth is silicone injections, administered by the same doctor over the years.</p>
<div id="attachment_860" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 205px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/CarmenNow.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-860" title="CarmenNow" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/CarmenNow.jpg" alt="Carmen Dell'Orefice" width="195" height="258" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Carmen Dell&#8217;Orefice, modeling into her 80s</p></div>
<p>Bethanne Hardison&#8217;s secret is an exercise tip: &#8220;Planks in the morning!&#8221;</p>
<p>China Machada says, &#8220;I would never want to do plastic surgery. First of all, I’m a coward.&#8221; She quips, &#8220;Now that I’m being photographed at 81, I’m not that happy [about this decision]!&#8221;</p>
<p>Paulina says, &#8220;In your 20s, you are trying to attract a mate. At 50, you don’t need to attract the same thing, so why do you need to look like you are 20? I’m 45; I&#8217;m interested in attracting different things now. I have friends looking 20 years younger. It&#8217;s not that I don’t feel like I’m being left in the dust, but there&#8217;s nothing more attractive to me in a person than confidence and nothing says a lack of confidence like Botox. The only thing you have that is uniquely you is your expression. Change that, and your whole look goes. You may be more perfect, but you&#8217;re not you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jerry Hall comments, &#8220;We have as role models, people who look scary to small children. They&#8217;re taking fat from their bottoms and putting it in their lips. That’s just gross!&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Aging</strong></p>
<p>Isabella Rossellini theorizes: &#8220;It isn’t women who want to stay young, it’s the whole society… You keep thinking you’re going to be judged.&#8221; Lancome dumped her for a younger woman when she turned 40, claiming advertising is not about reality but about dreams. Ever wise, Isabella comments, &#8220;I don’t know if that’s true. I’m an old fox; I know which creams work, which products I want to buy. It&#8217;s easier to sell to young people, but targeting them perpetrates this idea that women to be beautiful have to be young.&#8221; She continues, &#8220;Growing old, nowadays you don&#8217;t count anymore. Before, you were a looked up to as a person of wisdom.&#8221; The star chuckles about not being invited to the A-List parties anymore. &#8220;Now my daughter is!&#8221; she adds. &#8220;My mom would say, the only way to have a long life is to grow old. She didn’t seem very affected by growing old. Maybe that&#8217;s why I’m not either.&#8221;</p>
<div id="attachment_861" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 181px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/IsabellaNow.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-861" title="IsabellaNow" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/IsabellaNow.jpg" alt="Isabella Rossellini" width="171" height="251" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Isabella Rossellini</p></div>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m 50,&#8221; Jerry says, joyously. &#8220;That’s something to be celebrated!&#8221;</p>
<p>Carmen: &#8220;We all have to go sometime, and I want to go with my high heels on!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>HBO&#8217;s &#8220;About Face: Supermodels Then and Now&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jill</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rarely can I say that a documentary, book, article, or TV show about modeling depicts an honest and balanced view of the profession. &#8220;About Face: Supermodels Then and Now,&#8221; which aired last night on HBO, does this and more. Director Timothy Greenfield-Sanders leads us in a fascinating history lesson of modeling and fashion culture from [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rarely can I say that a documentary, book, article, or TV show about modeling depicts an honest and balanced view of the profession. &#8220;About Face: Supermodels Then and Now,&#8221; which aired last night on HBO, does this and more. Director Timothy Greenfield-Sanders leads us in a fascinating history lesson of modeling and fashion culture from the 1940s on, with modeling icons and editors sharing their poignant, funny and frank stories and refreshing insights on the industry, beauty, aging, plastic surgery, self-esteem&#8230; Their smart, thought-provoking quotes had me stopping and rewinding all the way through to make sure I caught every word. More stunning than these supermodels&#8217; faces in their youth is their wisdom now.</p>
<div id="attachment_807" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 563px"><a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/AboutFaceSupermodels1.png"><img class="size-full wp-image-807" title="AboutFaceSupermodels" src="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/AboutFaceSupermodels1.png" alt="About Face documentary" width="553" height="376" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Icons of &#8220;About Face: Supermodels Then and Now&#8221;</p></div>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>I got in on the conversation in a Q &amp; A with Timothy Greenfield-Sanders on <a title="&quot;About Face&quot; Q &amp; A" href="http://connect.hbo.com/events/documentaries/live-q-director-timothy-greenfield-sanders/?_cb=a9704bf89" target="_blank">HBO.com</a></p>
<p>Watch the &#8220;About Face&#8221; Trailer Here:<br />
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<p>I have so much to write about this documentary, that I&#8217;ll be doing a series of posts. Stay tuned for more from: <a title="Paulina Porizkova" href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/model-marriages-which-pair-has-lasted-22-years-and-why/" target="_blank">Paulina Porizkova</a>, <a title="Carmen" href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/carmen-dellorefice-still-modeling-at-80/" target="_blank">Carmen Dell &#8216;Orefice</a>, Isabella Rossellini, Jerry Hall, Marisa Berenson, <a href="https://www.modelingmentor.com/blog/what-models-know-about-midwives/" target="_blank">Christy Turlington</a>, Carol Alt, Kim Alexis, Beverly Johnson, Bethann Hardison, Pat Cleveland, China Machado, Christy Brinkley, Lisa Taylor, Cheryl Tiegs, Karen Bjornson, Calvin Klein, and Jade Hobson.</p>
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